Channeling with Jim Charles | Episode 16 | “They Call Us Channelers” | The Moore Show | Nov 21, 2019

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The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 0:27
Have you ever wondered, can you communicate directly with spirit guides, teachers or non-physical consciousness or even our higher selves? What would they tell us? My name is Kevin Moore. And since 2015 I started to practice a form of communication, which is termed channeling. I have been interviewing experts on my talk show to find out, does life continue after we die? And can we communicate with those that have crossed over? With each expert I spoke to, they all had different ideas is their knowledge from the past, which could be shared with the present moment? So I thought, why not just speak to the non-physical world directly through channelers around the world, and that’s what I set out to do. They call us channels that will take the viewers on a journey into the phenomenon known as channeling. And my main goal with this docu-series is to bring a new understanding and awareness to channeling by looking within ourselves and asking, Is it truly possible that we can all use this innate ability

Jim Charles (Channeler) 1:58
My name is James Charles, I’m a multi-dimensional channel. And that includes everything.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 2:16
Was there any sort of.. Did anyone else in the family have any sort of psychic or were they gifted in some sort of spiritual way? Do you think?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 2:26
they didn’t talk about it if they did, and, because most of the time they were very religious, more than spiritual, and they were frightened by the connotations of those kinds of things. And so.. as I was growing up, it was not right or not proper to have psychic gifts or anything like that.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 2:50
Will you quite into the religion as a young boy?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 2:53
My parents changed religion several times, when I was growing up and they went from like very basic religions to very much more charismatic religions, where people were hopping around and speaking in tongues and things of that nature. Now that was acceptable, because they thought that was spiritual and connected to God and things of that nature, but psychic energy was not.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 3:21
And just reminders. What, speaking in tongues again,

Jim Charles (Channeler) 3:23
Speaking in tongues would be angelic languages and things of that nature. If someone was getting healing, someone might speak in a foreign tongue or if someone was giving a gift of a message, they would speak in tongues and then someone would interpret it.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 3:45
I mean, that’s so close to channeling, isn’t it?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 3:47
It actually is. And if you think about it, that’s what the prophets did. They channeled God all the time, but yet, when it comes to this day and age, all that stuff is not good anymore. It’s, it’s only for the past. We’re not supposed to do that anymore, but I don’t agree with that, of course. (Laughter)

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 4:07
Absolutely. Absolutely. So as a young person, then did you.. were there voices in your head? Was there something that may be well, and was it your voice maybe, but just to a more grander version of it of, you know, a more mature kind of old knowing kind of voice?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 4:24
As I became a high school student? Yes, there was. I had some voices in my head, I had some activity happening around me, I could see certain things that weren’t quite normal. And I would tell my parents about it, and they would be like, yeah, you’re not supposed to be seeing that kind of stuff or you’re not supposed to be hearing that or you’re crazy or don’t, don’t think about that. So they would never really support it.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 4:53
What did it say to you sometimes that if you can remember anything, was it just?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 4:57
Well, it was mostly just They would speak to me and tell me that this was going to happen, or something was right in my way or something, or they would warn me not to go this direction or that direction. A few little things. And I would always follow it, because, it seemed like the right thing to do, but I thought it was more intuition than it was anything else. So I just took it as natural.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 5:28
As you were sort of progressing in your life, then what When did you sort of move away from religion or did it sort of move away from you?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 5:35
Well, I went to a religious college. And so, when I was full there, I was learning all about it. And things were happening. I was very intuitive and psychic in college and they were telling me how wrong that was. And until.. for many, many years after college, I still was trying to live a life that was religion-based, but I found out after a while that that didn’t fit my personality or who I was really, it wasn’t the real me. Religion wasn’t the real me, but spirituality was, and there’s such a big difference. And I couldn’t fit into religion, because of my spirituality. And so after a while, I just started to learn who I was in God’s eyes instead of who the church wanted me to be in God’s eyes, because that was totally two different pictures. The church wanted me to be someone that fit into a painting or a drawing of the New Testament and a God wanted me to fit into his vision of who I was.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 6:56
Absolutely, absolutely. What were you reading at the time?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 7:00
Actually I was reading science fiction. (Laughter)

I did read several religious books or spiritual books, but I was more drawn to science fiction and things that were imaginative and outside the realm of religion, because I found it stifling to a point to read more about religion, because it was not really “grokking” with me and “grokking” is a word from “Stranger in a Strange Land” by Robert Heinlein, which is science fiction.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 7:38
So, how were your parents taking that at the time that you had moved away from religion?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 7:45
Well, they actually didn’t know a lot about me moving away from religion. They thought I was still a good boy. They thought I was still living a good life, which I was.. I wasn’t doing drugs or being a bad person or doing anything, but I was moving away from religion as a stimulus, because it did not really stimulate me, but spirituality did and many things about the world were interesting to me. And the psychic abilities came back and forth. and I would get rid of them as much as possible, because I didn’t believe that they were good, because I was taught that way, but I realized later that God gave me those abilities, and he wanted me to use them for positivity. Now, everything in the Church says that psychic powers are negative, but you cannot look at the church for all the truth about everything. They have their fear-based thought process. That cannot allow themselves to be more than what they believe is right. And some of those things are very stifling to people. And they were very stifling to me. And when I started to realize God is a greater and more evolved being than the church said he was, then I started to find myself and who I was in God.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 9:31
Absolutely. Thank you so much for that. Thank you.

And, again, there are no free tickets on this ride.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 9:39
No,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 9:39
No, no, we’ve all gone through so much pain and the, you know, we tend to look at the profits of times began as people who were just so pure, which was probably not the case at all, so let’s just, you know, just get a bit about the background on you. So did you always know that you were gay? I mean, was that something that came out later in life or?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 10:07
Did it come out early? early? Yeah. It came out in college, actually, the church had made me believe that was something that was really, really wrong. And I was going to religious college at the time. And these were thoughts in my mind, and I was fighting with them. And I did all kinds of sacrificing and prayer and fasting, and all these different things to get rid of it, but of course, you can’t get rid of something that is inherently you. It’s like taking you’re.. trying to get rid of your personality. You can become a robot if you wish, but that’s not what God wants. And so eventually, I realized that this is something that’s coming out and it’s really unstoppable in some ways. You can stop it for a while, but you cannot stop it, if it’s who you really are. And if it comes out, and it made me feel really guilty, I was guilt-ridden for many years, until I realized God had forgiven me for that, but it wasn’t anything to be forgiven for, but he kept saying, “You’re forgiven, you’re forgiven, you’re forgiven”,

and I was doing really?

He goes, “You need to forgive yourself now, and then, I won’t have to forgive you anymore, because you were the one that’s making me forgive you”. (Laughter)

I realized I was gay. And that was frightening at first, for the longest time as I tried to change, because the church said it was wrong and The Bible said it was wrong, but I realized later that also that the Bible had been changed over the years, many times to fit with what people wanted it to say, so they could manipulate the people. And so that was to me, I understood that it was even taught in the, in the bible school, that many things could be interpreted many different ways. And that as people interpreted through time, things change. And as culture changed, the interpretations also changed in the Bible. So that was something that’s very important for people to understand. You have to understand that the culture back then was way different than the culture is now. And the writing and understanding of these words from many different languages are different, than they are now. And now that I have understood that being gay is not a sin, and it is not something unnatural, but it is the way God made me. I was able to relax and become who God wanted me to be. And that was an amazing realization and it turned my life around in many ways.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 13:20
Beautiful thank you for that, that’s so empowering.

So when you did finally come up. How long before you started to then realize, that the spiritual path is your path had already begun before then?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 13:36
It had actually started before then it had to, for me to make that realization I had to actually break away from the religious part, to understand the spiritual part in its real fullness, in its real brilliance., because the spiritual part was the energetic part. The beautiful part, the part, that was helping me grow, was the religious part had limitations, the spiritual part did not.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 14:10
So true.. So.. and obviously there was a breakup between you and mum at one point as well?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 14:19
Oh, yes, yes, I had some difficulties with my parents, mostly my mother, because she was very determined that being homosexual was wrong, wrong wrong. And she did not want her son to be gay, and she did not believe that her son was gay. She believed, that I was straight and she tried to frighten me into being straight. She tried to pressure me into being straight. She tried to push people on me to be straight and would say very unkind things to me to try to make me realize, that I was straight, but It was all unsuccessful, because the truth is, it wasn’t true. Her perception was wrong, but yet she couldn’t really accept it. She couldn’t really bring it into herself. And even after we became friends, again, there was a very long period, where we didn’t even speak, but after we became friends again, she still would try to guilt me into changing and I’m, I was like, that’s.. that can’t happen.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 15:37
So do you think that mum was a great healer for you?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 15:41
She could be – Yes, she..

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 15:44
She could say that that mum mate could be a healer to you?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 15:48
My mother could be a healer to me, but not always, but she did love me. She did her best to do what she thought was right for me. And that was very healing and very comforting that I knew that she loved me so much that she would go to any lengths to bring out of me, what she thought was the best. Although even though she did not understand what I was going through, she still tried to bring forth her best side and bring forth all the truth she had within her to do and shine it on me. It just didn’t work. And then eventually she said, I guess the only thing I can do is love you.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 16:40
Wow.

That’s so powerful.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 16:44
So even though she did not agree, the best she could do at the end was just say: “I just have to love you”. And if, if that doesn’t change you then it won’t..

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 16:58
So and Dad was kind of okay with it, but it’s kind of..?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 17:04
Well, let me put it this way. Dad was more on my side in many ways, because he saw how rough she was. He saw how domineering she was against this whole idea. And so he sort of was like: “Oh, I’m really sorry about that” sometimes, but he had his moments where he was against it as well, but there were times when he was very comforting to me.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 17:36
But you were able to this was all healed in the end, this has been healed. Now. This aspect,

Jim Charles (Channeler) 17:41
My.. the aspect that it’s wrong – Yes, that’s been healed.

I’ve been able to be myself and be honest with people and talk about it without feeling guilty. Or we’re ashamed. I feel.. but I’m not like “Proud”, but I’m just myself. It’s just who I am. It is not a greater part of me, than any other part. It’s just a part of the whole picture. That’s all..

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 18:13
That’s beautiful. That’s beautiful.. And when you came out to be a channeler, when you started the channel was mum stirred around then?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 18:23
Actually, she was not. I started channeling a few years after she passed, but my father was still alive, but the family wasn’t really thrilled about it. So I wish they weren’t even thrilled about me learning Reiki I learned Reiki first, which is energy healing, divine energy. And they were going Reiki is not in the Bible, and I go well, television is an either neither is SUV or any of these murder mysteries or whatever you watch on TV that is very negative. In my opinion, so I was trying to defend myself by saying, Yes, Reiki is not mentioned in the Bible, but neither is a lot of other things, but you cannot just rate something by what’s in the Bible. You cannot do it. You have to feel it. You have to understand it and learn something about it before you judge it.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 19:21
So true. So true. So how did that take your channeling was he interested?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 19:26
Actually. um.. He, he only knew about it during the last year of his life. And he really had very little to say about it. My father was very soft-spoken, very laid back. I gave him Reiki. He was a little apprehensive about Reiki at first, but he was… um.. so he let me do Reiki on him, but, and I told him, I guess I told him when my sister was there as well and.. He really didn’t have much to say about that, except that “Be careful”. He said: “Be careful with that”. And that’s about all he could say.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 20:09
That’s interesting, because some people in this field have lost their whole family’s doing this type of work. And some families is very supportive. So it is a bit of a mixture sometimes

Jim Charles (Channeler) 20:18
Yes, I’m not sure if my sister was there or not.. i might not be right.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 20:23
When you channel.. well, before we get into that, let’s just.. How did the channeling come about? I believe there was a car accident. It started off from there didn’t it?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 20:34
Well, there was a time I had a car accident and it cracked my sternum. And I missed a lot of work like eight weeks, and when I went back to work, a month later, then I lost my job. And after that, I was sort of lost until I found Reiki.

Some of my friends took me to Reiki to calm me down. And for a couple of months, I just Did Reiki laid on the table and had Reiki done to me. I found it to be very soothing, relaxing, healing and a very positive way of, of doing that. So and after that, I wanted to learn it. And so I said to one of the ladies there: “Can I learn how to do this?” And she said: “Sure, after you’re done with your session there, I’ll help you help me with this patient over here or this client”. So I went to help her and within a few minutes, she said: “Get into the kitchen: and I was like: “What did I do?” So I went into the kitchen, and she started looking at my hands. And she said: “You’re a natural Reiki healer. I could feel your energy across the table”. So she wanted immediately. She was a teacher, so she immediately wanted to train me on Reiki one and Reiki two. So that’s where I had my beginnings in starting to learn how to do Reiki healing.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 22:13
And then how did the channeling come about?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 22:16
Well, about a year and a little while later,

in May of 2013, this was in the Reiki started in Mar of 2012. In May of 2013, I was working on Max Rempel. The person you may know as the site manager, the site creator for humancolony.org.

I was working on him. I was giving him Reiki, he was one of my weekly clients. And I started hearing voices and I was going.. These voices were telling me how to Reiki him in a different way than I was actually doing it. They were telling me to get in line with his heartbeat and to put my energies in line with his heartbeat and a couple of other different things. And I told him as he’s laying on the table, if you know what Reiki is, like, if you’re laying on the table, you’re sort of out of it, because the first thing he does is make you relax. So he said: “Uh huh”. (Laughter)

So I was going well, like, I’m hearing voices and they’re telling me how to Reiki you better and he’s going “oka”. So after that Reiki session, he said: “Oh, so you can feel the aliens or you’re in touch with the aliens that are around?” and I’m going aliens. Not quite sure if I’m in touch with the aliens, but I okay. Maybe I am. So he said: “Okay. So next week I come and I’m hearing the voices again.” Or it might have been a couple of weeks after that, but I’m not sure exactly. I don’t remember exactly the timeframe, but I remember again the voices came. And they were starting to tell me more about Reiki and, and how to help him and do these things. And he said: “Can I ask them a question?” And I said: “Sure, why not?”

I was thinking, if they do answer the question will probably be in my head, but as soon as he asked the question, I was immediately channeling the information to him. And yes, my eyes must have been very big, because he said: “It’s alright. It’s good. The information is good.”

So I left to go, but then I was confused afterward, that what had happened, because I never knew, what channeling was. And he gave me Bashar tapes and said: “Here, go learn what channeling is”

So, after that, every time I came to him, there was a microphone or a tape recorder or something dangling in front of my face while I was doing Reiki. Just so if they were to speak again, he would catch it on tape. And every time after that they would speak.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 25:16
What just channeling mean to you now?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 25:20
Channeling means a way to help people, to help others and a way to bring information, that’s needed to certain people that may not have it, or maybe reminded, that they need it.

Sometimes channeling is information, that these people already had, but they needed to hear again and needed to wake them up to the spiritual aspects of their life, that they had actually let go. And sometimes it’s for information from people that have passed. need to speak to the world and tell their side of the story in the way that it needed to be spoken to originally. And sometimes it’s about aliens giving information about where they’re from and what they’re doing. And you may say, what help is that and it is to let people know, that they are part of our neighborhood, and that they are part of the future, that we are going to embrace eventually.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 26:32
And when you channel, it’s not like they keep on the 80 agenda run away. It’s not like they say, Oh, hang on, man. I’m just gonna sit down, because they want to channel me you know, James wants to channel me it’s gonna take a break cap, right? You’re connecting them with them in a, you know? Well, it’s where everything is already happening now is you’re connecting back to the spirit world, you could say to the consciousness that that that that resides over there, or?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 26:58
Actually, this is how I see it. They come through me, they use my mind and my words and my personality to express what they want to say, because they can’t put their personalities through me. So they are using everything in me to get across the message, that they want to give to whoever is there. And many times it can be a specific person, but sometimes it’s for everyone.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 27:29
Is it.. so you would class.. how would you class you’re channeling.. you classed it as a?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 27:35
I’m a multi-dimensional channel.

Because there’s many dimensions, that come through: spiritual dimensions, the alien dimensions, and even Angel dimensions. And God as well or source, or “I Am that I Am”. That’s how he comes through me Is he says “I am that I am”.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 27:58
And you’ve been doing this since In?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 28:01
May of 2013, I’ve been channeling, but I’ve not been channeling to people until probably Jan of 2014. We did do some webinars before that and I did some public channeling in some places, but I wasn’t really in business as a channeler until 2014.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 28:26
And you mentioned an organization there, that you’ve been part of since this all started,

Jim Charles (Channeler) 28:32
Well, Max Rempel started humancolony.org, which is sort of a group of people, that want to know about aliens and contact them and be in touch with them, but also it goes beyond that. This is they look into their spiritual languages, their Galactic Languages, their Galactic Hybridizations, their Hybrid Children if they want them and different things. It’s a very interesting and unique site. Yes, I have people that channel with me. I have friends that are channelers also, but I’ve actually brought people into existence as channelers in the sense that they started channeling after they got to know how channeling works through me. Not that I was responsible for it, but God and spirit were responsible for that, but they had the gift and everybody does, but there are those that are specifically meant to be channeling for the world and for other people. And then there are those that channel for each other and for personal situations, and sometimes they’ll be talking and all the sudden channel a message for someone and change an outlook or a thought process.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 30:07
So for yourself and how long has channeling be as a channel is channeling part of the human evolution or has it been always been there?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 30:15
For me, I’ve been told that I’ve been channeling… I’m a musician also. And I did a lot of recording with Derek Nat. And Derek, once I started channeling I said to Derek: “Derek, I have something to tell you. I’m now channeling aliens and spirits”. He said: “Well, that’s not a surprise. You’ve been channeling my life. Ever since you started writing music with me.” He said: “I had no, no doubt that you’re a channeler.” And I went “Really?” And he said: “Yes, he goes. In fact, I want to reading right away”.

So that the reaction I was getting from people is and even I told somebody, that was a very Catholic person. I go: “You know, I’m channeling aliens right now”. And they were like: “It doesn’t surprise me, really. You’re there was something very spiritual in your nature, and something very different about you. So I don’t That doesn’t surprise me.”

And so these things kept happening. I didn’t lose a single friend, or alienated a single person by telling them that I was a channeler.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 31:35
Is that surprising to you?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 31:36
Yes, that surprised me.

, because at one period in my life, I would have been alienated by somebody telling me that, but actually, I guess I’m with a fairly evolved group of people.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 31:50
Yeah. Would you like to see as the evolution of your work?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 31:54
The evolution of the work would be more spiritual, more helpful, more outward reach to.. to be helpful and less negative messages, I see that there are those out there, that want to attach negativity to everything, because they think they have to bring something negative to the table, because it’s real. They think negativity is real, but you know what.. Positivity is just as real. Positivity is as real as you can get. And it doesn’t need to have that attachment with it. In fact, it’s to overshadow that kind of attachments. That to, to shed the negativity, to make your personality more positive to be a brighter light in the world, to bring help and understanding and goodness and positivity. And if they’re getting negative messages all the time, that tells me they need to find a greater spiritual connection.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 33:07
Yeah, I mean, I’ve found that most channeled material that I’ve come across is very much from love.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 33:13
Yes,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 33:13
yeah. Yeah, but you have to use discernment with it.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 33:16
Of course. Of course.

You have to know and pray for protection, when you’re channeling. Protection is necessary, because there are those that can come in and sound nice and pretty, but be very deceptive. So protect yourself when you become a channeler. If you know that you are channeling if you know that the Spirit is working for you. Protect yourself every single day. I before every single channel session, do a small meditation, always. Part of that is about protection. The part is thankfulness to God for the gift and thankfulness for the help that will be given

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 34:00
How would you know if something’s deceiving you? Would it be? Would it be in the end, it’s just not coming from love.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 34:08
Sometimes, yes, other times it will be someone who wants to give a message that is not quite clear so that they will not believe everything that is happening in their life to mislead them, as far as their mission or their purpose, or their wholeness or whatever it is, someone will try to put something there that will cause a, a negative seed to grow. So you have to be very careful about that. It’s happened with me. Earlier in, in my channeling life, I did not protect myself well enough and these things happen. And I will admit that, but now I pray to God that that does not happen anymore.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 35:03
So where do you see the evolution of the channeling phenomena going?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 35:08
I think that channeling is a new way to express new information. I think while it’s an old way to express new information, because but it’s becoming new again, it’s re-identifying itself. It’s recreating itself, in this generation with this psychic phenomenon that’s here, with the energies of the Earth, with the energies of the mind, that is always expanding. And I think that it is a new way to bring information to the Earth and it can be bringing new information spiritually to the Earth, as well as intellectually to the Earth. It has more than one capacity. It can be spiritual, intellectual, emotional, it can heal. It can give you insight and bring you forward in your life. And that’s what it’s meant to do in this time, day and age. It’s not a negative, although it can be used that way, but a very big positive, especially with spiritual insight.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 36:34
Do you think this very special about this time right now as well?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 36:37
I do. I do think that this is a time where a lot of people need to wake up. I believe that this is a period of time, where there’s a lot of people just living a third-dimensional life and forgetting the spirituality of life, because it’s been so polluted. And I think that purity is coming back through channeling. I think it’s coming back to show people. “Look, God is interested in you. God is interested in the world. The angels are interested in you there is spirituality, that is still alive in the world. There is still something worth living for”. And religion may not be it, but the truth is here and if you listen to it, you can, your eyes will be opened. It’s so simple, so pure and so beautiful.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 37:37
Do you think there are levels of information that have not been brought through yet, because we’re just not ready for it?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 37:41
Well, I believe that every time they speak, there are levels of information. I believe there’s a spiritual level, an intellectual level, an emotional level. I believe that when they speak, some people listen with different levels of understanding. And when the Spirit speaks, they speak to people on all their levels. And that is something that’s new and exciting.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 38:12
Yeah, because everyone takes home a different message, a different angle from it sometimes.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 38:15
Yes. And sometimes I hear this, when they listen to recordings of someone speaking. They’ll say: “I’ve listened to this message three times, and I’ve got something different from it every time. I feel something more from it every time. I’m learning something new from it every time.” And that is the intention of it., because sometimes you’re not ready for the message the first time you hear it, but you’re ready for the part of it, but the next time you hear it, you’re ready for this part of it. And the next time you’re ready for the next part of it. So it’s a continual evolution of information that is put in layers in some of their messages.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 39:07
Why channeling though. Why do you think the messages want to come through this way? Is it so that we don’t get hinged on to dictate to people that we see it come through this sort of on the fringe of spirituality in a sense, so that there are no forms of too much addiction taking place?, because if it just came through,

Jim Charles (Channeler) 39:27
Well, it’s coming through in a pure form, but let me tell you this, the people that know who I am, know when I’m channeling, because it’s stuff, it’s information. That’s not something that would come from me or not said in the same way that I would say it, not in the same framework of understanding sometimes, so they know, that it’s coming from a greater source. And so channeling is to let people know that there are greater sources out there, that can come through and be part of them as well. And can ignite their personalities, their thought processes, and help them become a better and more fruitful, and more a driven person to find all the things that are meant for them as an individual., because once you become the person, that God wants you to be, then you are the happiest you will ever be. And you are giving to the world, the greatest gift, that God has given you and that’s you.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 40:41
How do you find out what God wants you to do?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 40:44
You stay in.. you meditate, for one thing, but you just ask for that information and you, allow it to come to you. You have to allow and that’s what another part channeling is allowing it to be truth, allow the truth to come. Don’t be afraid of it. Don’t be hesitant, that God is not there or hesitant that fear.. that only bad things will happen, because you can protect yourself, but be confident that he will help you to become more of who you are. I think some people need to channel to find out who they are., because they not that they’re going to be channeling for 100 people or 1000 or a million people, but they need to channel information that they didn’t have before to become more of who they are, to represent… I say: “Who am I?” There’s a lot of people out there going: “Who am I? What am I here to do? Why am I here?” and if you pray and meditate God will come through and let you know, that if you’re open to that,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 42:03
And that could be your own voice more wiser, then you speaking back to you or just to knowing, however, it’s going to come through it comes through.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 42:11
Absolutely.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 42:12
So you may say: “I think I know what my purpose is, I would love to do this”, actually, is that just being in alignment with what God wants you to do as well?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 42:20
Exactly.

You can do an intention meditation and say: “You know, the intention for this meditation is to find out what God wants for me”. You may do that several times, because it may not come through the first time. You may be a little blocked with that the first time, but as you do it more and more, you can open up to those meditations. And they don’t have to be deep deep meditations. They just have to be true and honest meditations, the ones that give yourself over to the spirit of meditation..

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 42:59
Well, Then finally, then what’s the difference between a psychic medium, or a channel? I mean, a psychic, medium or medium is, as we know, connecting with those that have crossed over.

Jim Charles (Channeler) 43:10
Yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 43:10
But then.. We doing that with channeling in a sense?

Jim Charles (Channeler) 43:15
it’s absolutely the same thing. It’s just a different connection. It is the same connection but only a little different. You’re connecting to people with.. if you’re connecting to aliens, you’re connecting with technology, because they’re still alive. They are alive and they’re connecting to you with technology, Those that have passed on are connecting to you in their psyche, but it’s in the same place as channeling is, because that place is opening up in humans more and more all the time. And as we evolve as a species that that place gets more open and more ready for communication between us, to talk back and forth mentally and talk to spirits and other beings.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 44:52
Greetings.

My name is Ish.

I’m an Ascended Master from the Draconian race, but I’ve come, because.. I may have some good information for you.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 45:10
It feels like a very special time to be here right now with you.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 45:15
It does feel like a special time. There are so many things going on in your world and in the universe. It is a very special time. Indeed. There are prophecies from all over the place, that are coming to pass and are being speculated upon as we speak at the moment. prophecies to me are very interesting, because they can come through in very unusual ways. And they don’t always necessarily mean that they are just regular exactly as spoken, but there are symbolic as well

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 45:51
What would be some of the prophecies that would be helpful to us right now to hear?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 45:58
Oh, I don’t know if it was would be helpful for you, but it would be interesting for you.

The prophecies that happened around your planet would be that the planet is a hybridized planet at this point. And as they enter the neighborhood of the galaxy, they will be able to help so many heal in so many ways. You see, because of the way that your planet was seeded, it is a wonderful DNA for healing for those species, that have evolved beyond emotions and beyond physical understanding of themselves. They’ve let themselves go, so to speak, but your DNA will help them revitalize, emotionalize You realize good decision making does come with emotion. It doesn’t come without it. And Those that have intellectualized themselves out of existence in some ways. Purely intellectualized are very illogical.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 47:12
That’s interesting what you’re saying. So a hybridization, as how long does this hybridization been going on for?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 47:19
Oh, since the beginning of your existence. You see, this planet was put here for that reason. It was to be hybridized from the very beginning. It had started off with primitive beginnings as well, as you can see by your very long past, the Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon and all those different things. I don’t even know the names of them all, but they were all changed quickly. You’ll find that there are many missing links, because they evolve them quickly.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 47:55
And when you say they evolved them, who are they?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 47:58
Many different species. Anunnaki, other peoples, some people from the Atlantis periods, all different, there were many different species.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 48:11
And that continues even nowadays.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 48:13
Absolutely. In some ways.. They do guide you.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 48:19
So when we say about disclosure, is that more of an inner disclosure rather than an outer disclosure

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 48:26
Disclosure is happening all the time. That’s part of what channeling is for.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 48:32
Yes, yes. Yes., because contact has happened. Obviously it continues to happen on our planet with contacting the consciousness side of the ET.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 48:43
Yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 48:43
And is the ETS the right thing to call them? I mean, are we not all alien in some respects to this planet?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 48:50
Of course, you are. ET’s is probably the less least acceptable, because they don’t consider themselves extraterrestrials. Meaning that they’re from this planet, but they do. Don’t mind the alien word or the, for any reason. They’re not offended by anything that you say really, because they know, that you don’t really understand what’s happening. And they really know that you know, not anything about them.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 49:22
Okay, then we’ll, in the prophecies that are out there. I mean, is disclosure on a mass scale one of those promises?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 49:32
Will you see, it’s like lighting candles.

As you light as many candles as you can, one to another, then the light gets brighter and people start to understand and then those at the top that don’t have even any candlesticks, because they refuse to be a part of that lighting will have to be… um.. brought into the picture. And so they don’t want to be left out, of course.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 50:06
But no disclosure is going to be forced upon us. I mean, are we in a spiritual? Is our consciousness at the right level for any sort of mass disclosure?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 50:15
Not at the moment. It is coming to that though, as you become awakened, you know, there’s a lot of fourth-dimensional energy aware, being released on this planet at this time since 2012, beginning of the ascension, but it is not yet to a place, where people are familiar, or at least not many are familiar with this energy.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 50:44
What is your connection to James?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 50:47
I found him as he was channeling and I know that he could handle what I had to say. So I came to him.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 50:58
Do you speak through others?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:00
I speak through very few others, but I speak to many.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:06
Do you speak to many others through a different type of connection as in?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:10
Yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:11
And you’re coming through as a different type of consciousness?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:14
Yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:16
Would you be able to name any other consciousness?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:19
Well, those are those. There are those that do not know me who I really am. And the mind name escapes them as I come through, but yet they channel me and they know, that I am a good consciousness, but they do not know my name. I gave my name to this one, and he will use it, but I do speak to others during sessions.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:43
Okay. And have you already crossed over in our understanding?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:48
Oh, yes, I’m a spirit.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:51
Okay. And if there was a timeline of when you existed, how long ago might that be?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 51:56
About 18,000 years ago,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 51:58
And your technology at the time

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 52:01
Was draconian. You see draconians back then, in another part of existence, not in this galaxy were very different. These draconians that you are aware of in this existence are very different, than the ones that I am related to. I am from originally the Sirius area, but we no longer exist there. We have migrated away from that area, but we, technology-wise, were higher functioning, higher dimensional, and I was.. perhaps, one of the leaders of my planet spiritually, but now, I do not really look at it that way. I would like to be something more integrated in the universe I would like to be part of a more integral part of Everything.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 53:01
Has your consciousness, your evolution, is it more into everything?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 53:07
it is, some do not understand how I work, or why I work the way I do. And some might think that I’m dishonest about the way i started with my integration with earth, because I didn’t identify myself as a draconian, because many were afraid of draconians, because I see their existence in this part of the galaxy was a little bit more primitive and a little bit more violent, but in my section of the universe, the draconians were very different. We look different as well.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 53:55
Obviously, you’re connected right now at this moment with myself in this present.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 54:00
I like it.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 54:02
I do as well. And I’m really happy that you’re here, but are you connecting with any other multidimensional aspects?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 54:08
Yes.

I have to connect with other interdimensional aspects, because that is how I operate as an Ascended Master. I connect with other Ascended Masters, as we understand how to go about with communication. It’s not a simple thing you understand, to communicate with a species, that is less advanced than we are, or, but we don’t want to be seen as more advanced, but we want to communicate as best as possible in advancing, what you have.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 54:50
Absolutely.. is coming to a dimension like this coming through someone like James, is that advancing you on this spiritually as well?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 54:57
Oh, I always learn things. It’s Silly isn’t it? But I do learn things from humans that I would not have thought about., because remember, I’m not from I’m not an Ascended Master from the third dimension, but a higher dimension still. And the third dimension has a lot of interesting basic things, that I have to relearn in some ways.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 55:25
So when you’re connecting with other multi-dimensional aspects, has some of those other realities had contact, had mass contact in a sense?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 55:35
Yes, but not in the same way that this planet as. This planet is very unique, but other places have had contact with us and other aliens as you call them. And they have had their selves brought forth or brought up in the in their consciousness by interacting with other species and there is another The government and there is intergalactic governments and alliances and all of these kinds of things. And you must understand you’re not alone. And there is a complex interaction between many different species that goes even beyond this universe.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 56:23
The most universe?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 56:25
if you want to call it that, I see it as..

You see how your molecules are connected, like a piece of hydrogen can connect to a piece of oxygen. So these universes connect one to another, to create something unique within themselves. And then outside of themselves. There’s something even more different, like Water Universes and Universes with different kinds of essences, that you might not even be aware of, but are it’s still part of your existence.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 57:07
What does it help us to know about the multiverse in a sense? I mean, because, because we’re struggling right now, in this time, we’re just being in the present moment. Some of us.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 57:19
I think, that you’re too centrally located, meaning that you’re too selfish.

Is that the right word? I think that you pay too much attention to yourselves. And learning about the multiverse might help you to diversify yourselves in a way that might help you to reach out, because if you remain too selfish and too unit-based, then you are going to destroy yourself, because you’re not seeing the whole picture. We as outside of your area, would like to say that we help you as much as possible with your understandings of your own creations. How much power you have developed in such a short period of time is really quite remarkable, because.. of course, some had helped you, but you have evolved too quickly in some senses.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 58:27
Basically, then we choose to create our reality.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 58:31
Of course you do, you must understand it before you can create it properly. And I don’t think all of you understand how to create a proper reality. And so, therefore, you need some help and that’s why we are here to speak to you and channel through those, that will have us, because you need to learn how to create your own proper reality, so that you may continue to exist.

You see we cannot come out. We cannot Come into your society and work that way. We cannot come in and change your laws or the way that you govern yourselves or the way that you see one to another, but we can speak to you, philosophically and through others spiritually, emotionally, and identify some of your problems as individuals, so that you might change your thought processes and become more enlightened.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 59:27
Right? So so so and also by by by choosing a reality of disclosure by choosing a reality, that there is more in this multiverse, or that there’s even more in this universe rather than disconnecting ourselves to see it seems so unified unit, as you’ve termed it, I can’t remember how you termed it, but you know, being so isolated in a sense, if we change our reality, that you know that there is more, than that reality will come into play.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 59:53
Of course, you have to put yourself into the big picture. Remember, if you make a big picture, and do not put yourself into it, then you cannot properly navigate through your reality. You must put yourself into the picture, where you belong, and you’re very tiny. And if you don’t put yourself in that picture, then you will cease to exist, because you will snap yourself out.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:00:20
So, we are in charge of the reality then of whether disclosure happens or something contact was to be made, because we create the reality of what’s out there, we are choosing a reality..

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:00:31
Correct, you must understand that you are part of a vast neighborhood. I like the word neighborhood, because you are going to be part of a very diverse and interesting group of people, once you realize, that they want to include you and that you want to be included.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:00:53
But nothing without the free will of creating that reality.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:00:57
Of course you have to create it before it can happen. So you must learn who you are in order to learn who we are.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:01:07
And if we don’t do that, then.. you know, this experience that the human being experience may come to an end. As a soul coming to have this human experience,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:01:16
it will be in the Akashic records, so to speak, that you are part of history, but I see this species continuing, and I see this, I see this quick evolution as something a little bit special. That’s why I’m here. If I didn’t think there was hope I wouldn’t be here. I see that you have a very good opportunity to take charge of everything, but you must realize, that there is a lot of work to do in the next hundred or 200 years. You have really moved forward and we have stopped you from destroying yourself more than once, not by intervening in any physical way, but by intervening in mentalities and telling people this is what will happen if you do this.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:02:14
Yes,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:02:15
it has changed thought processes and has caused several times the right action to be taken. Not always.. There has been times when the wrong action has been taken, of course, but it has not been a self eliminating,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:02:36
Okay. Okay. So so in other realities, that you.. that you’re connected within the multiverse? Have there been realities where, you know, we haven’t made it or is there someone there?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:02:49
Oh, of course,

There has been several times when some realities haven’t made it. Some dimensions have not created themselves. selves properly and have either divided or been destroyed, but there are some times when part of the species moves forward. And another part does not. Does that make sense to you?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:03:15
What is that what’s going on now?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:03:17
It is.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:03:20
Okay, what is that what’s going on with the mess awakening?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:03:24
Yes, in some senses, let’s see how many we can wake up, so that they can move on to the next dimension, to the next threshold, if you will, and those that will be left behind will not be the same. It is an interesting equation, if you want to put it in mathematical terms, because, as you know, everything is mathematical.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:03:55
But for those who never come across this documentary or never have come across this material. Maybe, they’ve heard of this. And maybe some people have heard of this, but maybe that’s coming across it, maybe it is right?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:04:06
Well, it’s coming across in several different layers. And this layer will reach you in the way that it needs to at the moment.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:04:17
So, okay, then but for those that are living most of their life, where they will never touch this subject, where other, you know, where they’ll never look at any bigger picture stuff.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:04:29
(Laughter)

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:04:29
What is their evolution in a sense, and what are they missed out on?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:04:36
I think I understood the question. they’ve missed out on self-evaluation, and becoming part of a bigger picture. You see, to evaluate oneself is to bring yourself into reality, that is necessary to move forward. So when you are in that reality to move forward, then you must see yourself in the picture and all those around you and see what needs to be changed so that you may create your existence in a peaceful and proper way so that you can move forward and enlighten others to be examples to those, that will accept your example. And to be a “question mark” to those, that need to be self-evaluating.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:05:33
Oh, right, right,

Okay, so what you’re saying there in a sense, well, we have to come from love more. That’s a peaceful world is a more loving world.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:05:47
A peaceful world is a more loving world, but on top of that, a peaceful world is one that will exist and continue to thrive and create and move forward. And be an asset to your neighborhood.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:06:07
Right? Yes, absolutely an asset to your neighborhood, because that’s what you represent, Are we not right now in that flow?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:06:16
Yes, we are. We are. And I say that in all correctness, we, you and I – are working together to move your species forward. We are working to enlighten you to help you become the perfect example of who you should be, but that is a difficult job, because many of you need to awaken. You have to awaken to the fact that there is a purpose beyond, what your little tiny thought processes are and to realise, that there are other species and others that are out there is part of that realization. And perhaps, the greatest part of it will the greatest part of your realization by knowing, that others exist outside your planet – is that you will take an action to enlighten the rest of your planet, to this neighborhood, to this bigger picture, to this bigger opportunity, if you will, to express yourself in a way, that is advanced beyond, what you are experiencing now., because when you become part of the neighborhood, those things will interact, you will come together in a way, that will teach you the greater understandings of how peace works, and what actually peace is. I don’t even think you know what peace is in? some dimensional thought processes.., because it is not part of your natural algorithm to bring it part into part of your natural algorithm is to actually interact with the numbers, if you will, interact with the numbers and bring them into alignment in your own specification.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:08:26
Yeah, you know, I always like the word is in a disclosure rather, than out to disclose.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:08:31
Oh, yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:08:33
Inner disclosure, that’s what I should call one of my documentaries. “Inner Disclosure”.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:08:37
Inner a disclosure is wonderful, because, without it, there is no outer disclosure.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:08:42
oh yes, because you don’t create the reality for the outer to be that..

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:08:45
Of course, there you have it. That is what I am trying to bring to this planet is singularities in the inner disclosure, so that the outer disclosure It is possible, because, without the inner disclosure, there is no outer disclosure.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:09:06
And why is that? Why do we have to create the reality that yes, I’ve, you know, I believe or my truth is now that there is other-dimensional beings or other ET’s or alien beings out that this is not the word these are just human words we’re using for this right? Why couldn’t they have just been there in the first place without me having to bring them into my existence?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:09:28
It’s part of your evolution of course. It’s part of your discovery. What we want us to give you all the answers. It’s doesn’t work that way. It works as if you are learning who you are, you are expressing who you are, you are feeling and knowing, understanding all the things, that are you, but you are putting them into order. There is an order for all things within each human and as you put yourself into order You find great satisfaction in reaching out to help others. You see, once you found your order, you can help put others into order. It is like the connection of energy throughout the universe, you realize that all souls are connected, except those of us who are not in physicality at all, but we still have energy, but the souls throughout the universe are all connected by light. And by the energy, that is created in each person by God, God gives you that fire, that light, that individuality, which connects one to another all through the universe, but one light has become full, it helps with the connections.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:10:57
Well, thank you so so much for that thing. So you know, it’s a bit of a paradox a little bit where, you know, I have said before put yourself first you put another first,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:11:09
Yes. you must put yourself first in this in the thought process that you must know yourself and give yourself the truth about yourself, then you can share that identity with others. So they can know themselves, because they will want to, once they see how it changes you.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:11:40
Yes, you know, but then the people who are maybe struggling with, you know, right now, depression or loneliness or the heartbreak of the more mundane things, they may listen to this and think, well, where does that fit into my issue?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:11:57
Well, that means you’re internally focused, They are focused on the internal, which has been pushed on them by the third dimension. You see, the third dimension has a pressure to it, all dimensions have their certain pressures, but the third dimension is very harsh in many senses, and these have been pushing on these people, they have accepted all the negative portions, that have been pushed on them, they must find those people that have learned to pull themselves away from that, they must find the answers to this without self-destructing.

Now, these feelings are self-destructive, these negativities, the sorrow, the anger the feeling of emotion justice all these things are pushing in them. They’ve accepted them, as part of their created reality. They have accepted them into their creative reality. Does that make sense to you?

What they need to do is say, I don’t want this particular reality. And you will say: “Well, how are they going to change that?” There is a way to bring that other energy to them, but they must realize that it’s possible. They must believe, that it is possible to change energy fields. They can do it, but if they see my face, which they can’t, but if they see my energy, which they might, they will be able to know that my energy field was changed from one thing to another. I went from being corporeal to being spiritual, that is a change of energy. Yes. So they can change the energy within a lifespan. They do not have to leave it. energy changes happen all the time. You just have to believe, that it can happen. And you can’t say: “I don’t know where it’s coming from”, because it comes from you. It comes from the inter spark that God is originally given to you. And it is a spiritual essence. look to God to fuel it. Look to God to fuel it. You can see the negativity all around you in the pain. There are many that are lost. Lost in pain. They need to find a way to get rid of it and you can, you can heal yourself, but they don’t believe it. There are so many things humans don’t believe, that they need to believe. Now.. let me tell them: “If you believe that you can be different, you can be different”. And if you believe, that you can heal yourself, you can heal yourself. It is a matter of taking the God element within you and making it work for you. That is the answer.. But that is not an easy answer. The element of God within you some people don’t even believe and so therefore who..?

This is a new aspect of Ish

I’m bringing in some of my fellows with me. And so the accent has changed a bit, but it’s all right. They know of which humans I speak of. And so that’s why they will help me. They knew humanity better than I do.

And they said, Oh Ish, you have to add this. (Laughter)

So I did. So, therefore, Yes, bring that creative thought process to you. What is it that you do best? What is it that you do best? Does each human have something, that they like to do? Start involving yourself in greater amounts of those positive things, that you can do best, that you can do? To help you get away from this old self into a new self,

Create your positivity. Take your positivity and build with it.

I know there’s so much in there, there’s so much I could say, I could keep going and going for all the time, but you have more questions.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:17:29
Thank you so, so much. Obviously looking at, you know, the idea, that we create our reality then and that we know we are choosing to create the reality of whether we have disclosure or not. What does that mean in terms of are we then as we change the reality we wish to create? Are we moving into different parallel universes is our consciousness leaving this body, when we go to sleep.. it as a silly example right? And then we wake up one day fresh, but We’ve actually broken up into a different reality, where something different is taken to take place, because we’ve changed

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:18:06
There Is that happening and some point. Yes, but I don’t want to go into all that confusing information. That is a very different thought process. And it is happening and absolutely, but what I wanted to do is actually give them a little bit of more of an idea how they can change., because, if they are lost in their doldrums, oh, there’s a good word doldrums, which is very hot, low energy. Start putting yourself into positive energy by watching positive things, being involved in positive things, being near positive people, changing where you are in your creation. because you created where you are. Take yourself out of that place and put yourself somewhere new. Now I can speak of those things that you just asked. Then you will see that you have changed a level of understanding, a level of perception, and a level, perhaps, of density. There are many timelines and you talk about timelines and some people need that explained to them, but you don’t have to understand timelines to know that you can move into a different perception. You have done it even in your negativity. You’ve moved to different perceptions of negativity and positivity, but now, let’s find a place in the perception of positivity, that you belong or that agrees with more of you, than what you had before. And stay there for a little while and soak in this degree, these elements that are around you, because it is another dimension to you. Completely.. and you will find that a, one of two things will happen. You will either be drawn to the positivity or it you will shrink back into your negativity, because you can’t handle it right at the moment, but find in your perception, your thought process, your algorithm of life – a change, new numbers, some new figures, some new additions. You cannot just stay where you are and be happy. Even if you come to a happy place, you can’t stay there and be happy, because you’re continually changing and evolving. Continue to move with that positive energy, because once you find a place that’s positive, and you feel that energy, you will want to move with it. You’ll want to keep it, you want to possess it and not let it go, but there will be those all around you, that say: “You can’t, you can’t, you can’t”. Don’t listen. “You can, you can, you can”. And I want to express that so much to humans, because I hear so many times: “I just can’t, I just can’t, there’s no way I can”. That’s so wrong… It is the.. um.. all the elements that you are wrapped in, that you are feeding from, feed from some other elements, feed from positive elements, and not the ugly elements, that you’re living in, feed from different things. You live in a world where the consciousness of all humanity is all around you in the air. What do they call that Karma? The Karma of all your people are there.

And it’s gray.

, because there’s good and there’s bad all through the Karma. It’s good. It’s bad. It’s good, but You are getting the amalgamation of all of it all of it put together and it’s “yucky”. It’s a slime.. go somewhere where there’s a great light, at least for an hour or two hours. How do you get there? You make it happen. You watch something positive on TV, instead of the same old, terrible negativity.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:23:31
So, thank you so much. So science fiction films. they’re quite negative towards it, you know?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:23:39
Yes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:23:40
But they’re all they’re really again, they’re all channeled to bring in this information, that we’re not alone and it’s just, it’s entertaining and entertaining is a way in to bring that idea that we are there’s more out there if we choose to create it

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:23:54
Create it – Yes. And you see creation is what your people are doing now.

They are creating a new way.

And you are part of it.

You and the channellers is and the positivity that comes from it. And the new information, that is being spread out – is part of the new things, that people can attach to.. that are very positive and brings them hope that, they can be pure, live in a purer and a more accepting world. They need to have a pure immune more accepting world and they can be part of that creation.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:24:54
Well, we talked about disclosure earlier on and that we’ve now come round to saying that we Have to create that reality. Where does where the world is where this world that I’m in right now stand with that when you have, you know, the Donald Trump’s, you know, Kim Jong-un and other issues or..

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:25:14
Are they not part of the awakening process?

When you look at these people do you not want to run away from what they are doing? Do you not want to go in a different direction? And where is that direction? Is it not part of this light? Is it not part of the positivity? Or do you want to suck in all their negative thought processes. We are hoping that these negative forces will awaken humans along with the violent weather and the negativity all around. Seek out something, that is a release from these things, seek out a place where you can find some calm, the eye of the storm, the beauty of life, love and understanding where you can grow instead of be trampled and be under the influence of these heavy negative thought processes.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:26:29
Have we created this reality as a mass consciousness?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:26:33
Yes, you have, to some extent. There are those helping you create it of course, but there are those also helping you. um… Get out of it. So it is pushing the pool the “Yin and Yang”. There’s it.. Okay, we can use that. Yes, the “Yin and Yang” of the situation. We hope that you see, that it is a duality and that they, as good gets better, you know, the darkness gets darker.

Pull yourself away from that with the light and the truth comes excitement, ideas, creation. expansion.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:27:21
Yes, a lot of people, some people are nervous that the idea that if contact was ever made on this planet with a brotherhood or however you want to turn that, that they would.. we would see them as gods and we would worship them, because of their technology and everything else..

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:27:41
Every time they have come. That’s what’s happened every time what, because what happens there weren’t educated enough to know that so being coming from the sky wasn’t the God. They weren’t educated enough, but you now you are. Now you are educated enough to know, that every being that comes from the sky is not a God. At least I hope you are. And so the beings come from the sky, you will not worship them as a God, but accept them as a neighbor.

You see, right now you are in that period. And that’s why channeling is evolving at this time, is that, from the sky comes to the word of God maybe, but not all the beings that come through our Gods, but they have great information. They still have some wonderful things to say, but you’re learning the difference between Gods and aliens and wonderful enlightened beings. You are now able to distinguish one from another and so this is your time of awakening,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:29:02
What is God to you?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:29:05
Oh God is the, the energy of the universe that keeps, that is in everything. He is the sentient energy – man, woman, child, creature, non-creature. solid, liquid gas, everything that exists is God made and so he is in it, but his sentence is the creator of all things from energy.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:29:41
Thank you, thank you for that.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:29:43
You can create light from energy, anything.. He is amazing.. He thinks things into existence with his understanding of all things.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:29:56
But then if we’re creating the reality that disclosures could happen and that would be we’re living in in very busy traffic lanes out there with all sorts of interdimensional beings, then we are Gods as well creating that reality.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:30:13
Of course, the soul is of God. Did he not give you a soul? What is it made out of God?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:30:24
So when I speak to you now when. I’m speaking to myself in a sense if we were all one?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:30:30
You are speaking to your future thought process.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:30:40
Okay,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:30:41
How’s that?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:30:44
Right, right? Yes. Okay. Yeah, right. I wish I could take that in this moment, So is this where we could evolve to?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:30:56
and beyond…

You will always be evolving. No matter what dimension. When you leave this planet, you’ll become energy and go to another place. And then you will evolve in another place and then you will evolve in another place and then you will evolve in another place, but you will never reach God, but you will always be reaching out to his energy.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:31:26
I will never reach God,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:31:28
But he will always be with you, but you will never reach his evolution.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:31:36
Is that your truth at this moment?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:31:38
Yes, because he is always evolving, and always being changed and always changing and always creating. And so we’re always moving toward him in our evolution, but we cannot possibly be him, because there is only one here.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:31:56
But we are an aspect of that.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:31:58
Absolutely.

And we will always attain more and more of him, as we move forward.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:08
What if when I cross over and this is just a human word for it, I want to come back and do this life again in a different way. I don’t want to go to a future timeline I want to come…

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:32:17
Then you will do that. And then you learn the lessons of it., because when after you leave this life, you can always review everything you’ve done.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:31
Is that what’s happening right now?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:32:33
That is what is happening right now.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:39
This is possible could be a review?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:32:42
If that’s what you think it is.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:45
It’s almost like a review than the free will.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:32:48
Of course, you’ll have free will. And you always will.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:53
Even in a review?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:32:55
Even in a review.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:32:57
So in a review, it’s almost like you could heal the things maybe that you got, not as we were not wrong. That’s the wrong way of saying it, but it’s almost you can review things that, that…

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:09
That you want to change

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:10
Right.That you want to change.

So then if this was a review, it’s a pretty realistic simulation, isn’t it?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:21
It is real.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:24
(Laughter) The review is real.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:28
It is.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:29
So how would you.. How would you?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:32
Everything is real. There is no unrealistic. There is no nothing that isn’t real. If you experience it, as you experience it, is it not real?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:43
I get that..

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:46
So yes, there’s no unreal.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:49
I get what you’re saying. Yeah. What’s you’re kind of saying is what does it matter?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:33:54
Hmm, it matters, but what does it matter if it doesn’t matter?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:33:59
That’s what I’m saying,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:34:00
Yes,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:34:01
We have right now, We have to make the most of it.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:34:04
Oh, and you do well.. and you don’t..

But you will..

Do you understand?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:34:19
That’s gonna be a big thing for some people to take in that this could possibly be a life review. So bringing this back round to the whole full conversation. Being in the present moment being here now is the most powerful, empowered point anyone can be.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:34:37
That’s right. This is where all your energy is.

Now, you have all these other places you can be, but you’ve put your energy in this one right now.

Yes?

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:34:53
Yes.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:34:54
Then this is where you are

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:35:03
Yes, so be careful, where you put your energy then.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:35:08
Your energy is carefully placed. And you as someone that has been around for millions of years, know how to place your energy – now,

Don’t you?

Unknown Speaker 1:35:23
Yes, I did mistakes placing energy…

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:35:27
Of course. I’ve made mistakes as well, but remember this, this planet that you are on, there are many people making mistakes and putting their energy in the now right now, but not in the proper way. So they’re still learning “The Now’s” and how to place their energy, but you on the other hand, have learned how to play some of your energies and are continuing to always learn how to place your energies properly.

It is a confusing conversation. If you want to bring it into the reality of Earth, it is a very confusing conversation.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:36:20
It must be one that’s needed though

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:36:22
It is needed when they want to understand it or when they have the ability to comprehend, that they are the individual, that is understanding it and it’s not from outside of themselves.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:36:41
is this aspect that’s coming through right now, that you, that you are right now coming through as a draconian, is this the only way that people watching this, that are meant to watch this? Is this one of their ways to wake up for this aspect to come through?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:36:57
Absolutely. And the reason I come through as a draconian is to show you, that all species have their positive sides.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:37:09
Absolutely, absolutely. Okay,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:37:12
I could come through as a very positive being from something, that everyone would accept, but with that being a good lesson? No, I don’t think so..

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:37:25
No, no, I really appreciate you coming through just as the aspect that you are right now.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:37:29
Yes, of course,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:37:30
I really do. And you’ve said some fundamental stuff on here, you really have some really good bloody stuff. And I mean that, because me both myself and James want to show exactly how this was gonna go.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:37:43
And I know that. (Laughter)

Yes, but this has turned out to be instructional, at some points, but I hope it’s inspiring to some, because I do want them to wake up. I do want them to be themselves. And I do want them to move out of their darkness into their greater selves, because their greater selves will be much happier and evolve faster, but the species as a whole has evolved so fast, in some ways, that they’ve lost their identity in others. So that’s why we’re here to speak through the channelers.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:38:29
So for those, whatever if this is a life review, or whatever this is, right, let’s just bring it back to it. All right, it is right now, right? So if we’ve chosen to create this reality chosen to come into this reality, where we forget a true connection of who we truly are,

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:38:48
Yes,

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:38:48
To have the experience, then it’s going to be a natural side effect of everything that here right now.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:38:56
It is

What else do you want me to say? That is perfectly true in many, many senses, but it’s also creating a new purpose for this moment. It’s also creating resolve. It is many things all in one, just as mathematics can describe the universe of a small sentence like that, can be multi-dimensional.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:39:33
So, okay.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:39:38
Do you understand what I said? I think, I think I do. I think I do.

You were just very multi-dimensional right there with that one, very small sentence, but yet you brought that into many dimensions of thought. And so we can bring them around and say to you, you are here in this moment, that you have created that is proper, that is a unification of ideas that you thought in the past, present and future, but this is a conclusion, that is starting another question.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:40:17
Thank you so much for that. Okay, one final message then. What would be a final message you’d like to leave us with?

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:40:24
I would like to say this.

It doesn’t matter who I am. In the scheme of eternity. I could be just a puff of smoke. That does not matter. What matters is your existence. How you create who you are, who you turn out to be. Not a puff of smoke, but a leader, a light. You realize That the light is a leader. No matter, if you do nothing, but sit in the darkness and light the way, your leadership is necessary. So be a light. If nothing else, be someone that shines an example of light

And then there are your talents, bring them into the light., because if you can shine a light on your talents of who you are,

You will bring forth ascension, evolution. great creativity, inspiration, heartfelt emotion and love, which is the most everlasting thing in the universe – is love., because you cannot destroy it.

Be indestructible.

That would be my words.

The Kevin Moore Show: https://channeling.com/ 1:42:21
Well, I just want to say thank you so, so much for coming through this very magical time right now. And if it is a life review, I’m sure, that there are things I’m changing or I’m least listening to the possibility, that I can do even more, than I thought I could.

Ish or Ish-tish-tack (Draconian Ascended Master from the Sirius) 1:42:39
You can and that’s what I wanted to tell you. Your beliefs are small, make them bigger.

Do you think you can do only this much?

But you can do this much.

You think that your words be heard by this many.. But they will be heard by this many.

Believe it, shine a light on it. Like God shine the light on.

Oh we will.

Much love to you

and I will go now

My business here is finished for now.

<Sending a short blessing on his language>

Transcriber: 1:43:55
<end of the interview..>

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The Moore Show | Youtube channel
Channeled by Jim Charles, Nov 21, 2019

Transcribed by Slava | Ascended Masters | Galactic Messages | Galactic Blessings | Galactic Poetry |

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